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Reaperman93010
05-13-2006, 03:54 AM
130 conversion. we've all looked and thought about it. There should be enough room under the body.

Custom pan chassis. motor mounted front to back offcenter (vertical). I don't think there's really room for standard mounting. 4x ZZSE-size cells down the other side. There must be some higher capacity cells in that size by now. There MAY even be room to center the motor with cells on each side.

Microservo pushed as far forward as possible and mounted backwards. Front wheels swapped to be steered from behind. Probably do away with the rear suspension/diff for a while. Stack the fets on the turbo...

boom, carpet racer.

on a somewhat related note. Does anybody know of an easy to use, free cad program? In my old age I've gotten sick of stealing software. Also, is there a handy source of gears out on the net?

cdog4w
05-13-2006, 05:10 AM
Funny, I was thinking about the pancar epoch earlier :)

No need to stack fets for a 130 on the turbo. I doubt you'd need a hot motor 130 to propel an epoch to monumental speeds. I've got a LBRC shotgun epoch and it is PLENTY fast (on 3 cells no less), so I dunno if the 130 is needed. Would still be cool to see though.

Servo I agree with!

I think the main issue would be mounting the front suspension. Would also be tricky to re-wire the servo to work with the epoch. You'd need to add wires to the servo motor +/- and to the 3 pot terminals, but you could remove the servo PCB. That and the existing issue of hairballs in the front wheels and diff. There are mods, but they require exactness that most of us can't achieve w/o expensive machines/knowhow. I'm waiting for LBRC's balldiff (if he can perfect it so that its mass producable) and for pre-modded knuckles with removeable front wheels to de-hair.

Reaperman93010
05-13-2006, 06:13 AM
I know you were mentioning it earlier, but I wanted to avoid filling that topic.

I've also got most of LBRC's mods, but I can actually do with more speed than the shotgun's got. 130 would provide it, and torque too. I actually think most of the difficulty would be hooking the motor and driveshaft to the back end. The only way I can think of to get around most of it, is simply not bothering with diff/suspension. depending on what the servo pot looks like, the frontend might not be all that bad at all. Should glue right down

arch2b
05-13-2006, 06:06 PM
i think our best bet is waiting for and modifying epochs to use some of the reported great features of the new kyosho mini-z lit. it's bascially a scaled down mini-z :) seeing as how the prices for these will be enough to make them cost preventative to purchase, aftermaket parts and replaccement parts will be a hot commodity for the epoch crowd i'm sure.

Reaperman93010
05-13-2006, 10:28 PM
I see your point. why bother modifying if kyosho's just going to come out with a drop-in x-speed motor that mops the floor with me whenever a corner comes up?

I do have my doubts about kyosho and what their car is going to be able to handle for a motor. But I wonder if the kyosho uses mosfets for speed control. Then at least it wouldn't need a turbo to get speed. Kyosho tends to cripple their cars by limiting factory upgrades to their stock speed controller. even on their 1/16...

slots are sickeningly fast too. the motor drops right in (as has been noted at length on this and other forums) but then all that has to happen is more batteries have to get packed inside. Do away with the chargingjack/power-switch and throw in a microservo and there may be room. This way the stock motor pod, diff and rear suspension could stay. but a pan chassis would still be needed.