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arfin
07-24-2005, 06:14 PM
Well whats up with the epoch? In production, tell me more! :D

epoch1-43
07-24-2005, 06:48 PM
Yes, they are in production! :)

arch2b
07-24-2005, 08:11 PM
Yes, they are in production! :)
this seems to be THE largest misconception. nearly every other epoch section of any forum has or is reporting them as discontinued and i think we all know where most of that info is coming from ;) i digress... thanks for making a clear statement in that regard. i hope in the future more details can be gleaned as to the production, retail and future of epochs and their relationship with epoch 1-43. :)

cdog4w
07-24-2005, 08:32 PM
OK, tiny and arch are *STILL* teasing us about their inside info.

1. So it seems they're making more spec-2's now, but what about a newer model?

2. How recent was the re-opening of production on spec-2's?

3. Will the re-opening mean better part access?

4. Will the re-opening have any affect on pricing? This is one of the bigger concerns of the group I think. The epoch is a superb car, but I feel priced too expensive for what it is.

5. Any chance of a rebuildable diff area? Stocking up on gearboxes is a poor solution to getting hair stuck in the diff area.

arch2b
07-24-2005, 09:05 PM
i don't know much more than you do... epoch1-43 will tell you that. all i knew before you did was the developement of this forum and it being a retailer. the rest is as much a tease to me as it is to you :p

kylelucas
07-26-2005, 04:08 AM
Is there any real information on a next generation EPOCH? Spec3???

sg219
07-26-2005, 07:33 AM
I'm going to quote LBRC's post on R7R and my reply. I think it fits into the whole sales/production discussion.

@LBRC...I hope you don't mind.

It is nice to see a site selling the Epoch and parts. Just incase someone missed the obvious, there is a distributor with exclusive rights to the car in North American and he intends to sell Epochs, and this website by TinyRC is a new start. I hope he succeeds and will give any support I can. It is after all by my definition the only true out of the box "micro" RC race car available to date and so far our best shot at a true state of the art pocket sized rc race car, big enough to house state of the art electronics and a tunable suspension but small enough for a home track. Mini-Z’s, 1:28 scale, are great but how many people have enough space a truly competitive daily practice track (i.e. 3 RCP wide L’s) at home.

I'm thinking nothing bigger than super slicks would be perfect.
Yes, that's it, small enough to practice/drive/race at home on your own track.

Speaking of a SS wouldn’t it have been great if the epoch was just a bit smaller so when the Super Slicks came out the bodies where interchangeable. When what you see is what you get what you get is board real fast no matter how good the car is to start with. It seemed to me that the Epoch's big stumbling block has always been a lack of exciting optional parts and upgrades. Sure there are a couple of tire compounds and springs sets for the Epoch but for the masses they’re boring, they want their favorite bodies and motors with bragging rights or at least something to look forward to. Vicious circle I guess without volume sales it’s hard to get the price down and with a high starting price it’s hard to get the sales especially when you try to sell a micro car at hobby shops specializing in larger scale RC cars, and without the sales you don't get the upgrade parts.

I’m babbling but my point is that the Epoch’s didn’t miss the boat they got off to a hot start then fell off the boat. The basic chassis design is still good if a little heavy. I’d just like to see someone generate enough sales and interest to justify a Spec-3; smaller, lighter, slightly different swapable motor design, easy to clean differential, and oh yea a digital crystal-less unlimited channel fully proportional w/break circuit board and radio. Sound unreasonable I don’t think so we have the technology. I simply want to combine the best of the slot and RC car hobbies, a hobby grade RC car small enough to drive on my own track in the privacy and comfort of home, then when I’m ready take it to the track to race and show off, without the hassles and limitations imposed by a limited number of frequencies. When I see Joe tearing up the track with his new Mach-99 motor I want to run to the counter with my sweaty little palms for that one performance part I need, pop it in, tune and practice on the B track while I wait for my turn to humiliate Joe and his #8 car on the A track. Or on the flip side I also want to show Mr. Big Bucks what he could do if he spent less time throwing money at his car and more time practicing.

My reply...

@ LBRC...

I couldn't agree more. I love the idea of being able to set up a room-sized track for a proportional car and having the freedom to drive agressively. Not worry about limitations of speed, size, and the amount of competition. (2 or more cars)

I have always had a slight intrest in the scale/Epoch, mostly by ownership of a good car, not the modibility of it. But when you throw modibility into the mix, it becomes more desirable to me and many other modders.

Then the upgrade/bolt-on side of the fence. The more bolt-on parts avalible, the more kids will enjoy and ask their parents to buy them one. Sell upgrades, just like Xmods.

I beleive that Epoch WILL need commercial sucess if it desires to become a household name. Like a Radio Shack product.

How many stores does RS have? A ton.

How many outlets do Epochs have? Less than Iwaver.

I'm not saying the comeback can't be done, I'm saying that it is a beginning.

From here on out, its all about the product. Nothing else. The forums, the members, the online store, the ideas, the past, the future....Nothing matters unless the overall product is easily avalible, reasonable, competitive (worth buying more), and sustained.

No one wants to buy a disco'ed RC, before the batteries die.

I'm all for seeing some true Epoch action.

I'd love to be able to have fun with a truely functionable 1:43rd scale car in the comfort of my own home, without worring about replacement parts and being competitive with others.

Not all of us have Bruce around to throw us off turbos.

LBRC
07-26-2005, 10:11 AM
sg219 don’t mind at all, think it’s great, I hadn’t seen this thread yet, dial-up on a lame-duck computer is slowing me down.

Kylelucas
I wouldn’t hold my breath for a Spec-3 until there are enough sales/interest world wide, to justify one. However there is a better than good chance that within a year we will see a few changes/surprises most likely in the body department first. It’s an uphill climb first you need the sales to support real changes.

I noticed there is a poll on NASCAR bodies now I personally am not a fan but I have friends and relatives that are. So let’s suppose that someone was able to bridge the horribly complicated licensing obstacle and come out with a good assortment of the more popular Hendrix Motor Sport, Ralphs Racing, and Pensky cars in AutoScale like Epoch body sets (detailed cars bodies with wheels in a display case) as long as the details where correct at a NASCAR race you could probably sell a great many body sets even to fans who don’t own an Epoch or any other RC car for that matter. The fans have a reputation for spending money and to them the fact that they could get a good RC chassis to go with their body set would just be gravy, and of course after they collected two or three bodies they’d just have to get that nifty RC car to go with them. Sound backwards and crazy? Well it is, but that’s how things tend to be. The point is that you have to find a way to sell more than just a few Epochs and it could work. The mistake would be to try to sell an RC car to NASCAR fans, sure there might be a few fans that also love micro RC cars but they would be the minority for success you have to target the widest possible client base, not limit yourself to a select few. Give the fans what they love, detailed car bodies that represent they’re favorite teams and drivers, and then give them something to love, a good micro RC car to go with it. But there are lots of mistakes that could be made and things that could go wrong. For instance even thought there are only three basic car bodies with very little actual difference a mistake in the decals could be fatal, and the body sets have to compete with die-cast aluminum bodies, the advantage is the RC component but for that to count to a NASCAR fan it would have to be clear that they aren’t just “toy” RC cars.

Long winded babbling again but cool body sets sold to an existing fan base could generate the interest and sales we need for someone to invest the time and money it would take to design and manufacture a good easy to clean differential that would in turn boost the hobby grade RC race car side of the sales equation.

epoch1-43
07-26-2005, 07:00 PM
Awesome comments LBRC - would you mind re-posting in the NASCAR thread to stir discussion there? Thanks! :)

avant
07-26-2005, 09:47 PM
I'm still wondering - even after reading the previous postings - if this is a "relaunch" of the Epoch Indoor Racers, because they disappeared from the manufacturer's page (http://www.rc-mtech.com) and I don't see any new parts or other shops which offer them.

I would really be happy (and a lot of Epoch-fans here in Germany, too - like microsash, who has developed the turbo, he's admin of the http://www.bit-racer.de forum) if mtech is still producing these excellent products (hopefully with some official dealers here in Europe), but I have my concerns, that just the stores are cleaned up.

Thanks for any clarification,

Jo - just curious

EDIT: we had some races here in Germany and what's missing are different tuning motors, gears etc.

mick the quick
07-30-2005, 05:23 AM
I'm still wondering - even after reading the previous postings - if this is a "relaunch" of the Epoch Indoor Racers, because they disappeared from the manufacturer's page (http://www.rc-mtech.com) and I don't see any new parts or other shops which offer them.


Ever since first reading about this news of them still being in production, I've been skpetical. I too raced over to mtech's site, and the indoor racer pages are still nowhere to be seen.

So come on now. What's the REAL story here? Just because someone is distributing the cars in the states again does not equate with the line still being in production. It's time to for the owners here to tell it straight. Otherwise, this news seems like nothing more than hyped advertising.

epoch1-43
07-30-2005, 04:36 PM
The real story is that they are still in production, and while sales have slowed in Japan, they will churn out as many as we need, and they already have tens of thousands in inventory. What else would you like to know? :)

arfin
07-30-2005, 05:34 PM
Are they also producing the upgrades? Getting the foam tires/alloys/resin bodies in the shop would be perfect. Also check your pm's. :)

sg219
07-30-2005, 11:02 PM
Ever since first reading about this news of them still being in production, I've been skpetical. I too raced over to mtech's site, and the indoor racer pages are still nowhere to be seen.

So come on now. What's the REAL story here? Just because someone is distributing the cars in the states again does not equate with the line still being in production. It's time to for the owners here to tell it straight. Otherwise, this news seems like nothing more than hyped advertising.

I'm just as skeptical, if not more so. ;)

I'm not calling anyone a storyteller, but...

I have several Epochs (4 1/2) right now, and for me to go any deeper, I need hard-facts as to the longevity of the product and the avalibility of quality upgrades.

It's been a underground/dead scale for so long now, that all of this publicity, seems to be a little overwhelming and outta nowhere. Why not just continue to use TinyRC.com as an Epoch forum and selling point? It seems as if only a couple of people aren't skeptical about Epochs.

Spill the beans. :cool:

All I've ever heard is that they are out of production, no one sells any decent upgrades, they are too expensive (this still stands), and that they are not easily avalible or modable. (The latter has been evoling lately.) We see that there are some cars and upgrades avalible for sale now, but what other choices do we have. Does "Monopoly" pop into anyone's mind? Competition. I want choices, it's America. :p

The real story is that they are still in production, and while sales have slowed in Japan, they will churn out as many as we need, and they already have tens of thousands in inventory.

I'd think with that large of a scale of production, there would be more retailers. Seems sorta lame to have all those cars and no where to sell them all.

I'm hoping for a Spec-3 with an easily upgraded chassis sometime soon. Maybe then I will become less skepical.

I'm not sure how long Epochs have been around, but how long was it between Spec-1's and Spec-2's?

A little history? I know you guys out there know more.

One of you HARDCORE Epocher's need to start a thread...

"The History of the Epoch: The quest for Spec-3"








FYI....Not trying to be a rebel or anything, just kinda investigative. :)

epoch1-43
07-31-2005, 12:26 AM
It's been a underground/dead scale for so long now, that all of this publicity, seems to be a little overwhelming and outta nowhere. Why not just continue to use TinyRC.com as an Epoch forum and selling point? It seems as if only a couple of people aren't skeptical about Epochs.


Not sure I understand - seems like the opposite would me more logical - why all of this publicity and expense etc. if they were dead?!


All I've ever heard is that they are out of production, no one sells any decent upgrades, they are too expensive (this still stands), and that they are not easily avalible or modable. (The latter has been evoling lately.)


Okay, but from where? Rumors on Forums? Verses the actual information that we're providing from Epoch themselves - I don't understand why you'd side with hearsay over documented facts? RE too expensive, please give us your feedback on pricing etc.



FYI....Not trying to be a rebel or anything, just kinda investigative.

No problem - let me know what else we can do to help dispel the rumors! :)

sg219
07-31-2005, 02:58 AM
Its that all of a sudden there is a sudden interest in Epochs. They've been around for sometime now, and nothing until now, has been this intense. Forum, parts, tracks, actual mods being done, and of couse the sales.

I'm just looking for the sudden motivation. A good deal from the factory?

There's been a large following of these cars by people long before my time on the RC scene. But there hasn't been any type of product upgrade in forever. Normally a lack of that wouldn't bring on a interest like there has been in the past few weeks/months.

Interest usually sparks when something new has been put out, a new chassis, new line of bodies, hot motors, and other assorted factory goodies.

The creation of ph2t's turbo, not nessasarily the first Epoch turbo, (but probably the best) I'm sure has perked up a lot of people to Epochs, but there has to be something more for you to want to push these.

It made me take a second look at them. For sure.

As far as pricing.

I know your offering some kind of discount, but only to the first 10 people or something like that. So that doesn't matter. What about the regular Joe's that want to shop?

RTR set $79.95 + $8.55 S&H = $88.50 :(

Body and chassis set $64.95 + $7.10 S&H = $72.05 :(

or...

When I bought mine, I got 2 RTR's and 2 Chassis and body sets with wall chargers, decals and 4 sets of asst. tires for $150.33 USD Shipped.

If I bought that from your store, it would cost me (not including decals and tires).....

$319.70 + $23.99 S&H = $343.69 Thats insane. :(

You would have to cut the price by more than 50%.

I feel that the RTR's shouldn't be priced more than $50 and the chassis and body sets not more than $35.

arfin
07-31-2005, 03:17 AM
I'd much rather have a dedicated forum to Epoch, then having to read at TinyRc (especially the colour) Also, many of these new mods LBRC, already had done a while ago, you must have just missed them.

But as for prices, the epoch is expensive, when Apex had that deal LOTS of people were buying from them, and that also had a nice increase in Epoch fans.

Hopefully the mods keep flowing in, thanks to LBRC, the diff problem is pretty much over with. :) There is a turbo now, maybe soon someone will come up with upgraded motors!

sg219
07-31-2005, 03:27 AM
I'd much rather have a dedicated forum to Epoch, then having to read at TinyRc (especially the colour)

I agree. (especially the color) ;)

I'm sure now, that some people have become hooked or re-hooked on Epochs, there will be a onslaught of mods that get accomplished.

epoch1-43
07-31-2005, 10:58 PM
RTR set $79.95 + $8.55 S&H = $88.50

Body and chassis set $64.95 + $7.10 S&H = $72.05


Well, I've posted several times asking for feedback on pricing; the accurate price for RTRs is under $60 with the 25% discount applied, and we plan on continuing various promotions etc. based on Member feedback. :)


When I bought mine, I got 2 RTR's and 2 Chassis and body sets with wall chargers, decals and 4 sets of asst. tires for $150.33 USD Shipped.


Where/how/under what circumstances etc.?! Was this some kind of closeout deal? Obviously we can't compete w/ someone who was deliberately jettisoning product at whatever he could get as he decided to exit the industry entirely. :)

I don't understand your need for some sort of conspiracy-based explanation; we've been wanting to do an Epoch-specific site for some time, and we finally got around to it after halfEIGHT was launched - it's as simple as that. :)

arfin
08-01-2005, 01:38 AM
Yeah i think that the deal SG is talking about is close out, well mine was around same price when Apex was closing out.

Since i don't know what you are paying for them this might not sound fair, but how about keeping the RTR's at the same price regular, and making the chassis kits at a sale price, because most people are in need of the chassis not the RTR.

sg219
08-01-2005, 02:19 AM
Its all about the prices.

Your selling them on such a high-end mark-up, it seems as if your not interested in selling to people that are actually into the Epoch and know better. A.K.A....All about the profit.

I can say this too, I bought them from R7R at that price (150.33), and that price was offerd to ALL people that were members of R7R, not just the first 10. Ripper was selling them from one Epoch hobbiest to another. You help me, I'll help you.

Your prices are nowhere in that range. The range of the everyday Epoch enthusist.

I'm just an a-bleep-ole when it comes to people trying to make a hobby an obscene profit maker.

Like what happened to baseball cards in the 90's. I used to collect them and trade, and then came all DEALERS trying to set prices and profits, no more fans/collectors that were in it to help out each other. I understand this is America and we as a country revolve around profits margins.

Whats the need for specials? The people you'll be dealing with are avid fans of the Epoch, not just browsers. Offer the same price all the time.

This, I feel, needs to happen. At least until there are some actual new products and items.

Whats the difference if I got them from K-Mart along with my Fruit-of-the-Looms. We don't know that you didn't get them for a steal and marking them up to the current prices. A price is a price. I paid a lot less and got a lot more in return.

The prices I posted are the exact pricing. Not the under $60 you mentioned. Go to your store and put one in the cart. You'll see that its clearly more. You mention a discount, the only way you know about that is if your in the inner circle of things. Other than that your screwed.

crazydave
08-01-2005, 09:08 AM
I too would like to see a lower price point, but I think maybe you're being just a bit harsh towards tiny, SG. To me it seems as though he supports and helps smaller scenes, where as companies like Tower Hobbies exploits it.

Look at the Iwaver, I'm sure at the numbers Towers having produced in, they could easily beat MZR's price, but they are $10 more. Again with Microsizers, TinyRC sold them at the same price as Tower, when you know Tower was getting them for much cheaper. Now Tower is clearing out speed sets for $2.50, that were originally sold for $20. How's Tiny gonna compete with that? Now just imagine if Tower got a hold of of Epochs. They'd be the ones with exclusive distribution, jacked up prices, and then when the popularity died off, they'd clear them out.

I thought I understood that you're a business owner yourself, SG, I would think you'd relate to the little guy's struggle in trying to compete against the bigger guys.

epoch1-43
08-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Your selling them on such a high-end mark-up, it seems as if your not interested in selling to people that are actually into the Epoch and know better. A.K.A....All about the profit.

sg219, can you explain where you're coming from on this - you have no idea what our costs are? :confused:


I can say this too, I bought them from R7R at that price (150.33), and that price was offerd to ALL people that were members of R7R, not just the first 10. Ripper was selling them from one Epoch hobbiest to another. You help me, I'll help you.

Okay, do you understand that they were being liquidated, and that this was a special close-out deal?


I'm just an a-bleep-ole when it comes to people trying to make a hobby an obscene profit maker.

Well, you're pointing your finger at the wrong people I'm afraid. We're in this for the hobbyist, it's the big monopolies like Tower that you should be getting frustrated with, not the little guys.


Whats the need for specials? The people you'll be dealing with are avid fans of the Epoch, not just browsers.
...
You mention a discount, the only way you know about that is if your in the inner circle of things. Other than that your screwed.

Well, in my opinion this is a great demonstration of how we are in it for the hobbyist, by giving discounts to the real enthusiasts.

Keep the ideas coming. :)

epoch1-43
08-01-2005, 02:50 PM
Yeah i think that the deal SG is talking about is close out, well mine was around same price when Apex was closing out.

Since i don't know what you are paying for them this might not sound fair, but how about keeping the RTR's at the same price regular, and making the chassis kits at a sale price, because most people are in need of the chassis not the RTR.

Sure - give me some suggestions $-wise? :)

epoch1-43
08-01-2005, 02:58 PM
I too would like to see a lower price point, but I think maybe you're being just a bit harsh towards tiny, SG. To me it seems as though he supports and helps smaller scenes, where as companies like Tower Hobbies exploits it.

Look at the Iwaver, I'm sure at the numbers Towers having produced in, they could easily beat MZR's price, but they are $10 more. Again with Microsizers, TinyRC sold them at the same price as Tower, when you know Tower was getting them for much cheaper. Now Tower is clearing out speed sets for $2.50, that were originally sold for $20. How's Tiny gonna compete with that? Now just imagine if Tower got a hold of of Epochs. They'd be the ones with exclusive distribution, jacked up prices, and then when the popularity died off, they'd clear them out.

I thought I understood that you're a business owner yourself, SG, I would think you'd relate to the little guy's struggle in trying to compete against the bigger guys.

Thanks cd, that's a very good example. What makes it worse too is that Tower/GP set minimum prices that dealers can sell at, and then go and undercut us, and like you mentioned, then go and liquidate them for a fraction of the price.

sessiz
08-02-2005, 12:54 AM
True we don't know your costs but if your hoping for a "revival" then you're gonna have to come down on the price of rtr sets. Maybe a permanant discount for forum members or monthly sales spread out sporadically so that members who frequent this forum can catch the deal. This car is worth the $80 in my opinion but I allready have 2 and at $80 I won't be getting another, if ya get my drift. ;)

arch2b
08-02-2005, 01:00 AM
True we don't know your costs but if your hoping for a "revival" then you're gonna have to come down on the price of rtr sets. Maybe a permanant discount for forum members or monthly sales spread out sporadically so that members who frequent this forum can catch the deal. This car is worth the $80 in my opinion but I allready have 2 and at $80 I won't be getting another, if ya get my drift. ;)
i've been discussing similar ideas with epoch1-43 myself. please understand that feedback is a good thing ;) i'm not speaking for epoch but as an experienced moderator on a couple of the forums. just be rational about assumptions and unknowns :p insults wheither alluded to or clearly expressed are not a means of positive constructive cricism and not conducive to a posititve feedback environment.

sessiz
08-02-2005, 01:04 AM
i've been discussing similar ideas with epoch1-43 myself. please understand that feedback is a good thing ;) i'm not speaking for epoch but as an experienced moderator on a couple of the forums. just be rational about assumptions and unknowns :p insults wheither alluded to or clearly expressed are not a means of positive constructive cricism and not conducive to a posititve feedback environment.


Uh...was I alluding an insult or making an assumption?
You were probably just speaking in general though and only quoted my post as an example of constructive criticism.

epoch1-43
08-02-2005, 01:49 AM
True we don't know your costs but if your hoping for a "revival" then you're gonna have to come down on the price of rtr sets. Maybe a permanant discount for forum members or monthly sales spread out sporadically so that members who frequent this forum can catch the deal. This car is worth the $80 in my opinion but I allready have 2 and at $80 I won't be getting another, if ya get my drift. ;)

sessiz, I don't get your drift - we already extended the 25% off through the end of August - that's under $60, not $80; you even say it's worth $80, so surely this is a really good deal? :confused:

arch2b
08-02-2005, 01:53 AM
Uh...was I alluding an insult or making an assumption?
You were probably just speaking in general though and only quoted my post as an example of constructive criticism.
i was not referring to you sessiz :p just general reflection...

sessiz
08-02-2005, 02:04 AM
I didn't see that until after I posted that post. As to my "drift".... I meant that if the cars were cheaper I would be more willing to drop the cash on more than a couple cars. I'm a modder at heart but like every other newb out there I'm bound to make mistakes. If the cars were cheaper, say between $50 and $60 I wouldn't worry about messing something up to the point of no return.
You have chassis sets for sale and that is great but like many people here I have friends that like to get drunk with me and we play hard. This is why none of them have touched my epochs ever. :p That also brings up the need for "crappy" controllers which makes me just buying chassis sets kinda lame.
Do whatever ya want man sell em for whatever you see fit I'm only trying to give ya some "constructive" criticism here. Take it how ya will.

epoch1-43
08-02-2005, 02:08 AM
Do whatever ya want man sell em for whatever you see fit I'm only trying to give ya some "constructive" criticism here. Take it how ya will.

sessiz, just to clarify, I really appreciate your feedback, I just don't understand some of it, e.g.:

I meant that if the cars were cheaper I would be more willing to drop the cash on more than a couple cars. I'm a modder at heart but like every other newb out there I'm bound to make mistakes. If the cars were cheaper, say between $50 and $60 I wouldn't worry about messing something up to the point of no return.

The are between $50 and $60 for the RTR when you use the 25% off coupon, which anyone can use, as many times as they want! :)

sessiz
08-02-2005, 02:15 AM
I was only elaborating/explaing my "drift" in the previous post man. That post was made before the post where you informed me about the extension of the discount.

arch2b
08-02-2005, 03:12 AM
I didn't see that until after I posted that post. As to my "drift".... I meant that if the cars were cheaper I would be more willing to drop the cash on more than a couple cars. I'm a modder at heart but like every other newb out there I'm bound to make mistakes. If the cars were cheaper, say between $50 and $60 I wouldn't worry about messing something up to the point of no return.
You have chassis sets for sale and that is great but like many people here I have friends that like to get drunk with me and we play hard. This is why none of them have touched my epochs ever. :p That also brings up the need for "crappy" controllers which makes me just buying chassis sets kinda lame.
Do whatever ya want man sell em for whatever you see fit I'm only trying to give ya some "constructive" criticism here. Take it how ya will.
what controller do you use? i am now using one of the kyosho kt-5's and it works well and it's nice because i've been using that tx for some time and i'm used to it.

sessiz
08-02-2005, 03:14 AM
I use my iwaver TX with my epochs.

arch2b
08-02-2005, 03:17 AM
damn, your fast :p the iw tx with 10? model memory? (futaba clone...) or the previous iw tx, clear or brownish plastic?

sessiz
08-02-2005, 03:18 AM
The clear one, first gen iwaver TX I think.

crazydave
08-02-2005, 05:17 AM
I hear what sessiz is saying. I like to mod cars too, but I don't want to screw up my only one and at $80 my wife would kick my butt before I got another.

I was only willing to pay $80, because I was already ready to spend that much this week, but really that is the factor beside availability that has kept me from getting one of these before. $60 just makes it sweeter, and now I can't wait to order one and mod it.

I was just browsing the parts, and thought $7 for the tire sets is a tad pricey, but then saw the PCBs for $9, and thought that was kind of a deal. It describes it as the reciever, is that the speed controller too? If so, I might want a few to put in Zip Zap SEs, like LBRC.

arfin
08-02-2005, 07:59 PM
Yeah, that pcb is everything built in. Very good price, i will pick up a few when i have the cash.

Which one are you going for? Also, Tiny will the Subaru Impreza WRC be in stock soon?

epoch1-43
08-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Well, the bad news is that we've cancelled the 25% off. The good news? Well, go ahead and click:

http://halfeight.com/shop/home.php?cat=262

http://halfeight.com/shop/home.php?cat=264

:D

epoch1-43
08-02-2005, 09:47 PM
Yeah, that pcb is everything built in. Very good price, i will pick up a few when i have the cash.

Which one are you going for? Also, Tiny will the Subaru Impreza WRC be in stock soon?

Hey, that's weird, they just came in today, have you been camping outside watching?!

http://halfeight.com/shop/product.php?productid=16294

:D

arfin
08-02-2005, 09:48 PM
WOW! Nice man, i'll be saving cash for sure! Btw think you will have the Subaru in stock? :)

epoch1-43
08-02-2005, 10:09 PM
Huh? Today! :)

arfin
08-02-2005, 10:13 PM
It says out of stock. http://halfeight.com/shop/product.php?productid=16299&cat=264&page=1

I need some cash :)

cdog4w
08-03-2005, 12:00 AM
Man, I go on vacation for 5 days and I miss a lot of drama :) epoch, thats a stellar price for RTR and chassis, really exciting for all of us epoch lovers. This site has been a catalyst for the whole epoch scene, and now with cheap epoch available for everyone I hope it really takes off.

I have plenty of plans for my epochness:
1. Build a turbo and guide with lots of pictures using the available circuit and parts easily obtained from here and RS (for the resistors).

2. Attempt a custom 1/43 chassis out of aluminum and use an epoch PCB.

3. Finish building the lap timer and shoot some video of it counting laps. If everything works right, I will put up a guide with pictures to make the existing guides more clear for other people attempting to build their own laser lap timer.

So I just wanted to thank epoch for starting this site, selling us cheap epoch (yes, people have gotten better deals, but these aren't closeouts or time limited!), and in general revitalizing interest in them.

mod_o_matic
08-03-2005, 12:20 AM
Well, the bad news is that we've cancelled the 25% off. The good news? Well, go ahead and click:

http://halfeight.com/shop/home.php?cat=262

http://halfeight.com/shop/home.php?cat=264

:D

Wow..just wow..

sessiz
08-03-2005, 12:29 AM
Kudos to you tiny/epoch/dave, now just sit back and watch them epochs fly out the door. I know I'm picking a couple up within the next couple of weeks.
Actually don't sit back, supply us with some bodys and rims and turbos and..... :p

crazydave
08-03-2005, 12:46 AM
Which one are you going for? I'm assuming that was directed at me...

You know, I almost hate to say, cause I'm always afraid the one I want will sell out before I get to it, its happened before. So I'll go ahead and tell ya, but I'll say, everyone stay off that old school Skyline until after Friday, after Friday its fair game, but until Friday, its mine! :p

sessiz
08-03-2005, 12:50 AM
That's what I'm goin for too dave, no worries though cuase I'm broke for the next couple weeks. :(

arfin
08-03-2005, 01:08 AM
That or the Subaru is the one i want to, but i won't get it till Friday either since i'm as broke as sessiz (meaning no money at all) :p jk

epoch1-43
08-03-2005, 01:47 AM
Kudos to you tiny/epoch/dave, now just sit back and watch them epochs fly out the door. I know I'm picking a couple up within the next couple of weeks.
Actually don't sit back, supply us with some bodys and rims and turbos and..... :p

Thanks sessiz; and RE bodies, rims and turbos, all 3 are in the works! ;) :cool:

sg219
08-03-2005, 06:28 AM
Gotta finish my Mini-T first. :o

I'll be back. :D

epoch1-43
08-12-2005, 06:34 PM
It says out of stock. http://halfeight.com/shop/product.php?productid=16299&cat=264&page=1

I need some cash :)

Impreza Chassis & Body Sets are In Stock now:

http://halfeight.com/shop/product.php?productid=16299

:)

arch2b
07-10-2009, 07:24 PM
just thought i would revive this thread with the same question. where are these? what is in the epoch's future?

kydawg1
07-11-2009, 12:48 PM
just thought i would revive this thread with the same question. where are these? what is in the epoch's future?

Epochs have been silent for a while .....are they working on anything new to challenge the Kyosho dnano and HPI 1/32 racer?